Comments received between April 2015 and November 2015 can be found below. For further information and current updates, please visit www.capelsound3940.org
I commend you for taking the initiative to make such a proposal. I do like the idea of "Capel Sounds" being a suburb in its own right.
However as a Tourism operator and small business owner within Rosebud West I would most likely be against the name change as I feel it would have a considerable adverse effect on my business. For us being in "West Rosebud" is identifiable, people from anywhere in Melbourne know the suburb Rosebud and Rosebud West is easily recognised and identified.
I don't think being part of Rosebud is a negative, I do feel that pride of place is very important and development of this should be a joint effort across the entire Mornington Peninsula.
Regards,
Steve Dale
Managing Director Extreme Watersport
e. info@extremewatersport.com.au p. +613 5982 3432
Thanks very much for your response Steve. This is the sort of information we are seeking. We are currently surveying residents and businesses from across Rosebud West so we understand what everybody thinks before we do anything.
Being a resident of Rosebud West, I am very interested in your proposal to change the suburbs name to the beautiful Capel Sound!
When I accessed your website - capelsound3940.org, I was searching for a petition and the email address, to give my support to your cause.
Can I suggest that you put a petition at the top of this page, for interested residents and friends to sign, and put your email and blog links at the top of this page, for better vision?
I look forward to hearing what I can do, besides writing my own email to council, to further this action.
Mary In progressing this initiative the first step was to provide evidence to Council there was sufficient interest in the name change to the point they should ask all residents and ratepayers their opinions. We considered doing this through a Petition but this would only list the names of people who support it. We were more interested to understand WHY people supported or opposed it. We therefore opted to conduct surveys of residents and businesses across 3940. Your suggestion re the visibility of the email and feedback link are good ones and we will fix. Re other action you might take, the next step in the process is when Council decides whether there is sufficient interest to consult with residents and ratepayers on the change. The challenge is to keep a conversation going that is both informed and inclusive.
I live in Rosebud West, and I do support the potential name change to Capel Sound. I think there is already an awareness of this name as many bay areas and businesses already mention this in literature and signage. I support it not because there may be a perceived social negative to "Rosebud West", but I believe "Capel Sound" gives us our own identity. There is no Rye West, Dromana West etc., so why not have our own independent identity. I hope this initiative is successful! Glenn, Sundew Ave, Rosebud West (Maybe "Capel Sound" one day).
Thanks for the comments Glenn. The way we see it this is all about 'identity'. In fact our Proposal to Council is titled 'Who we are….having our own identity.'
Hi as a resident living in 3940 I am for the name change it will give great pride and a emotional boost to the community. I feel if handled wisely the change will draw the community together with a perceived fresh recognition.
Thanks for your contribution to the discussion Mike. It's a discussion we residents and ratepayers of 3940 must have if we are to move ahead together and make it a better place both now and into the distant future.
It would also be good to hear the thoughts of residents of the wider Peninsula as we are all connected both physically and in our passion for this piece of the Earth.
Changing the name will take a lot of time….and some money. It would be easy to use this as a reason to do nothing. But we don't believe it will be wasted. We think it will be pivotal in refreshing our identity and making 3940 a better place. We hope that in 20, 50 or 100 years somebody will look back and be grateful someone made the effort.
I have lived here all my life & I am very much against the name change. I love Rosebud West & think Capel Sound is ridiculous. If you don't like living in Rosebud West, then move. Why don't you put your energies into stopping the overdevelopment & the loss of native flora, fauna & birdlife of our lovely peninsula. Changing the name will not change people who are struggling financially & physically. The name change is just trying to yuppify the area, for the elite.
I'd like to know who was surveyed about the name change and how many were surveyed. I live in Rosebud West (beach side of Eastbourne Road) and don't know anyone apart from the traders that have been asked their opinion.
This is not a change I want to see as everyone all over the state knows where we are by our name. Capel Sound? All of a sudden nobody will have any idea where we are. What a ridiculous notion. Use the money for something really useful instead.
If, however, a vote was taken by ALL residents, and they voted for a change, I will live with that. What I don't want to see is a noisy minority having too much local influence.
The traders can all incorporate Capel Sound into their shop front names if they wish and have the best of both worlds. We do not need a name change.
I'm sorry,, but I support the NO Name change. We need to fix any problems the suburb may have before we change the name. No name will work to make a suburb "good" if any issues haven't been addressed first. Also, has any consideration been taken for the expense any businesses may endure in order to change stationary, etc. Please, leave the name alone.
I commend you for taking the initiative to make such a proposal. I do like the idea of "Capel Sounds" being a suburb in its own right.
ReplyDeleteHowever as a Tourism operator and small business owner within Rosebud West I would most likely be against the name change as I feel it would have a considerable adverse effect on my business. For us being in "West Rosebud" is identifiable, people from anywhere in Melbourne know the suburb Rosebud and Rosebud West is easily recognised and identified.
I don't think being part of Rosebud is a negative, I do feel that pride of place is very important and development of this should be a joint effort across the entire Mornington Peninsula.
Regards,
Steve Dale
Managing Director
Extreme Watersport
e. info@extremewatersport.com.au
p. +613 5982 3432
Thanks very much for your response Steve. This is the sort of information we are seeking. We are currently surveying residents and businesses from across Rosebud West so we understand what everybody thinks before we do anything.
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DeleteOn the contrary
I believe name change would be positive for your business
I vote Yes
Regards
BudgetTravelAustralia
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ReplyDeleteBeing a resident of Rosebud West, I am very interested in your proposal to change the suburbs name to
the beautiful Capel Sound!
When I accessed your website - capelsound3940.org, I was searching for a petition and the email address,
to give my support to your cause.
Can I suggest that you put a petition at the top of this page, for interested residents and friends to sign,
and put your email and blog links at the top of this page, for better vision?
I look forward to hearing what I can do, besides writing my own email to council, to further this action.
Thank you :)
Mary
Mary
DeleteIn progressing this initiative the first step was to provide evidence to Council there was sufficient interest in the name change to the point they should ask all residents and ratepayers their opinions. We considered doing this through a Petition but this would only list the names of people who support it. We were more interested to understand WHY people supported or opposed it. We therefore opted to conduct surveys of residents and businesses across 3940.
Your suggestion re the visibility of the email and feedback link are good ones and we will fix.
Re other action you might take, the next step in the process is when Council decides whether there is sufficient interest to consult with residents and ratepayers on the change. The challenge is to keep a conversation going that is both informed and inclusive.
I live in Rosebud West, and I do support the potential name change to Capel Sound. I think there is already an awareness of this name as many bay areas and businesses already mention this in literature and signage. I support it not because there may be a perceived social negative to "Rosebud West", but I believe "Capel Sound" gives us our own identity. There is no Rye West, Dromana West etc., so why not have our own independent identity. I hope this initiative is successful! Glenn, Sundew Ave, Rosebud West (Maybe "Capel Sound" one day).
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comments Glenn. The way we see it this is all about 'identity'. In fact our Proposal to Council is titled
ReplyDelete'Who we are….having our own identity.'
Hi as a resident living in 3940 I am for the name change it will give great pride and a emotional boost to the community. I feel if handled wisely the change will draw the community together with a perceived fresh recognition.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your contribution to the discussion Mike. It's a discussion we residents and ratepayers of 3940 must have if we are to move ahead together and make it a better place both now and into the distant future.
ReplyDeleteIt would also be good to hear the thoughts of residents of the wider Peninsula as we are all connected both physically and in our passion for this piece of the Earth.
waste of time and money
ReplyDeleteChanging the name will take a lot of time….and some money. It would be easy to use this as a reason to do nothing. But we don't believe it will be wasted. We think it will be pivotal in refreshing our identity and making 3940 a better place. We hope that in 20, 50 or 100 years somebody will look back and be grateful someone made the effort.
ReplyDeleteAll the best
We have received three posts from Anonymous as follows:
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'Use that money for a hospitals more important than this.'
Post-2
'Plan to sell your home, so think changing the name will have more value'
Post-3
'It is costing money out of your pocket or taxpayer
I suggest that everyone who wants to change name to bear the cost'
This can only be positive for the area
ReplyDeleteI have lived here all my life & I am very much against the name change. I love Rosebud West & think Capel Sound is ridiculous. If you don't like living in Rosebud West, then move. Why don't you put your energies into stopping the overdevelopment & the loss of native flora, fauna & birdlife of our lovely peninsula. Changing the name will not change people who are struggling financially & physically. The name change is just trying to yuppify the area, for the elite.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to know who was surveyed about the name change and how many were surveyed. I live in Rosebud West (beach side of Eastbourne Road) and don't know anyone apart from the traders that have been asked their opinion.
ReplyDeleteThis is not a change I want to see as everyone all over the state knows where we are by our name. Capel Sound? All of a sudden nobody will have any idea where we are. What a ridiculous notion. Use the money for something really useful instead.
If, however, a vote was taken by ALL residents, and they voted for a change, I will live with that. What I don't want to see is a noisy minority having too much local influence.
The traders can all incorporate Capel Sound into their shop front names if they wish and have the best of both worlds. We do not need a name change.
I strongly appose a name change. It will achieve nothing and cost small business money that a lot cannot afford to outlay.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry,, but I support the NO Name change. We need to fix any problems the suburb may have before we change the name. No name will work to make a suburb "good" if any issues haven't been addressed first. Also, has any consideration been taken for the expense any businesses may endure in order to change stationary, etc. Please, leave the name alone.
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